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  1. #31
    Okidoki Avatar von Ornox I.O.F.F. Team
    Ort: Deutschland
    Hamiltons DSQ ist da, auf 3 Seiten wurde das Urteil begründet. Hat wohl deswegen so lange gedauert

    Fact Could not fulfil the requirement of a maximum 85mm measurement (adjustable
    positions of uppermost rear wing element).

    Offence Breach of Article 3.6.3 of the FIA Formula One Technical Regulations.

    Decision Car 44 is disqualified from the results of qualifying (Art. 12.4.1 m of the FIA
    International Sporting Code)

    Reason Reason The Technical Delegate reported that Car 44 failed the test designed to
    check the requirements of the last paragraph of Art. 3.6.3 of the 2021 FIA Formula 1
    Technical Regulations. The check is described in Technical Directive 011-19.
    In lay terms, there is a gap between the upper and lower parts of the rear wing. When
    the DRS is not activated this gap must be between 10mm and 15mm. The car passed
    this part of the test.
    When DRS is activated, which raises the upper element of the wing to a flatter
    position, the gap must be between 10mm and 85mm. The maximum gap is measured,
    in accordance with TD/011-19, by pushing an 85mm gauge against the gap with a
    maximum load of 10N (ten newtons.) If the gauge goes through then the car has
    failed the test. In this case, the gauge would not pass through at the inner section of
    the wing, but did at the outer section of the wing. This test was repeated four times
    with two different gauges, once being done in the presence of the Stewards and
    representatives of the Competitor.
    The Stewards held a hearing on Friday following qualifying with Ron Meadows, the
    Competitor representative, and Simon Cole, the Chief Engineer, Trackside and from
    the FIA Jo Bauer, Technical Delegate and Nicholas Tombazis, Single Seater
    Technical Director. The Stewards then adjourned the hearing to gather more
    evidence and at 10:30am on Saturday morning held a further hearing that also
    included John Owen, Chief Designer for the Competitor, who testified by video
    conference, but did not include Joe Bauer.
    The Competitor asserted that the design is intended to meet the regulations. It was
    clear to the Stewards that the additional deflection was due to additional play either in
    the DRS actuator or the pivots at the end, or some combination or other fault with the
    mechanism, or incorrect assembly of the parts. The Stewards heard, from both the
    team and the FIA that the same design has been tested many times during the
    season and uniformly passed. Further, the FIA has examined the design of the area
    of the car in question and are satisfied that the design meets the intent of the
    regulation. There is therefore no question in the minds of the Stewards that the test
    failure indicates any intent to exceed the maximum dimension either by action or
    design.
    The Competitor also noted, that Art 3.6.3 of the regulation states a maximum
    dimension, which is possible to measure without applying a force or load. It is not until
    a force is applied, that the gauge is able to go through. There was no disagreement
    that the test itself was undertaken as described in TD/011-19. The gauges were
    measured and the Stewards were satisfied that they were the correct dimension. The
    Competitor therefore argues that their car complied with the regulation in the static
    position and thus meets the regulation. The FIA argues that while not regulatory, the
    TD, like many others, describes the procedure for the test so that competitors may
    design cars to meet the regulations. Further, the TD states that the test is designed
    “to make sure that the rear wing element does not deflect to a larger opening than the
    permitted value…”. The Stewards take the position that while a TD is not in itself a
    regulation, TDs are accepted as the method upon which the teams may rely and in
    this case, the test that was carried out was in conformity with the TD and its legitimate
    aims.
    The Competitor alleged that the fact that the car passed the test in the center section
    of the wing is both a mitigating factor and shows that there was no intent to breach the
    regulation. While the Stewards accept that the latter point may be true, the Stewards
    believe that which sections failed is not relevant to the fact that the wing did fail the
    test.
    The Competitor noted that this is not a systemic breach, and is indeed unique. It was,
    rather, something gone wrong. The Competitor further noted that they would have
    liked to have had the opportunity to inspect the parts with a view to having some
    explanation for the Stewards as to how the problem arose. However, the Stewards
    fundamentally accept the Competitor’s explanation that the cause of the failed test
    was something “gone wrong” rather than a deliberate action. The Stewards therefore
    chose to keep the assembly under seal and preserve the evidence of the failure,
    rather than altering the parts in an inspection which would have involved some
    handling of the parts and thus some alteration of the evidence.
    The final point of the Competitor regarding the assembly itself is that it is regular
    practice for the FIA Technical Department to allow teams to fix minor problems that
    they find with their cars, even during the Parc Fermé conditions of qualifying. Had the
    Competitor recognized this problem during qualifying they surely would have sought,
    and the FIA Technical Department confirmed, they would have received permission to
    fix the parts or tighten bolts if needed.
    The Stewards were sympathetic to this argument and analyzed whether they felt this
    was a mitigating circumstance. It is often a mitigating circumstance to make
    allowances for crash damage. However, the Stewards could not extend this argument
    to cover parts that were found out of conformity in post session checks with no
    obvious reason in evidence other than considering normal running at this Event. In the
    end, the regulations are clear and at the moment of the conformity check, the car did
    not comply.
    At the end of the first hearing on Friday, amateur video emerged of driver Max
    Verstappen touching car 44 in Parc Fermé. The Stewards took the time to gather all
    the available video footage of this incident and finally reviewed in car footage from
    car 14, car 77, car 33 and car 44 as well as CCTV footage from the FIA’s pit lane
    cameras, in addition to the amateur footage. The Stewards held a separate hearing in
    relation to this incident and incorporate the text of that decision herein.
    However, in summary the Competitor of car 44 also agreed that it was unlikely that
    Verstappen’s actions caused the fault, however they felt that it was an open question.
    The Stewards, however, were fully satisfied, having extensively reviewed the totality
    of the evidence regarding that incident, that it has no bearing on this case.
    Finally, therefore, the Stewards decide that car 44 failed the test indicated in TD/011-
    19 and is therefore in breach of Art 3.6.3 of the FIA Formula 1 Technical Regulations.
    The Stewards agree with the Competitor that this is something gone wrong, rather
    than an intentional act or design but did not find there to be mitigating circumstances.
    Further, Art 1.3.3 of the International Sporting Code states that “it shall be no defence
    to claim that no performance advantage was obtained”. Therefore, the Stewards
    order the usual penalty for technical non-compliance of Disqualification from the
    qualifying session.
    Competitors are reminded that they have the right to appeal certain decisions of the
    Stewards, in accordance with Article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code and
    Chapter 4 of the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules, within the applicable time limits.
    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...%20-%20DRS.pdf

  2. #32
    YNWA Avatar von reddevil
    Ort: am großen Strome
    und dafür haben die jetzt so lange gebraucht, bei zb haas wärs in 30 Min. durch gewesen


    for your dreams be tossed and blown...



  3. #33
    Unschuldig Avatar von titan
    Ort: Sexy Anhalt
    Tja das wars dann jetzt wohl wirklich mit der WM. Mercedes hat es tatsächlich geschafft ihren Nr. 1 Fahrer diem WM zu verbasseln. Das musste erst mal schaffen.

  4. #34
    YNWA Avatar von reddevil
    Ort: am großen Strome
    na noch ist der sonntag nicht rum in nem chaos rennen könnte lewis natürlich noch nach vorne kommen

    for your dreams be tossed and blown...



  5. #35
    Giggity Giggity Goo Avatar von Liba
    Ort: Frankfurt am Main
    Die 5 Strafplätze bleiben dabei aber unberührt oder? Punkte beim Sprintrennen heute kann er dann vergessen, im Rennen wird er sich aber auf jeden Fall vorarbeiten können.

  6. #36
    YNWA Avatar von reddevil
    Ort: am großen Strome
    Zitat Zitat von Liba Beitrag anzeigen
    Die 5 Strafplätze bleiben dabei aber unberührt oder? Punkte beim Sprintrennen heute kann er dann vergessen, im Rennen wird er sich aber auf jeden Fall vorarbeiten können.
    jau, wird er im sprint zb noch zehnter heisst das startplatz 15
    ausser natürlich merc macht jetzt einspruch,
    der würde dann wohl erst hinterher verhandelt
    bei ablehnung wäre das sonntag dann also wirklich letzter startplatz

    for your dreams be tossed and blown...



  7. #37
    Endlich wieder Sprint Action.
    1Live ist die Schande des IOFF


    Satire nach Artikel 5 GG

  8. #38
    Victory is mine! Avatar von BVG-Man
    Ort: Quahog
    Ich sage, unter der Bottas-Maske steckt Martina Hill.
    Es gibt nur einen Gott - BelaFarinRod.

  9. #39
    YNWA Avatar von reddevil
    Ort: am großen Strome
    Zitat Zitat von BVG-Man Beitrag anzeigen
    Ich sage, unter der Bottas-Maske steckt Martina Hill.
    Häh, das ist natürlich Bernhard Langer

    for your dreams be tossed and blown...



  10. #40
    Okidoki Avatar von Ornox I.O.F.F. Team
    Ort: Deutschland
    Ham sollten bestraft werden

  11. #41
    YNWA Avatar von reddevil
    Ort: am großen Strome
    oargh Max

    for your dreams be tossed and blown...



  12. #42
    Okidoki Avatar von Ornox I.O.F.F. Team
    Ort: Deutschland
    Zitat Zitat von reddevil Beitrag anzeigen
    oargh Max
    Hat halt keine roten genommen wie die anderen

  13. #43
    Victory is mine! Avatar von BVG-Man
    Ort: Quahog
    Zitat Zitat von reddevil Beitrag anzeigen
    Häh, das ist natürlich Bernhard Langer
    Oder Joko.
    Es gibt nur einen Gott - BelaFarinRod.

  14. #44
    Okidoki Avatar von Ornox I.O.F.F. Team
    Ort: Deutschland
    Fahren die gelben eigentlich durch, oder wechseln die einmal?

    Oder fahren alle auch die roten durch? Das würde ich schon sehr riskant sehen bei Rot
    Die dürfen ja alles machen wie die wollen
    Geändert von Ornox (13-11-2021 um 19:45 Uhr)

  15. #45
    Zitat Zitat von Ornox Beitrag anzeigen
    Fahren die gelben eigentlich durch, oder wechseln die einmal?
    Alles andere als durchfahren macht keinen Sinn.
    1Live ist die Schande des IOFF


    Satire nach Artikel 5 GG


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